What Would It Look Like?
If the Vaccine Skeptics are correct.
Note: Thank you to Ashmedai for the input and collaboration.
What would it look like if the Covid vaccines are causing much more harm than we were told they would? The hardcore vaccine enthusiasts have such fierce tunnel vision that they explain away every signal that the Substack warriors have been exploring for the past 2 years.
I know we’ve all grown weary of the constant debate, and many of us have retreated into our own corners of information exploration, simply because it’s too exhausting to keep going in circles with people who absolutely refuse to consider any piece of information that doesn’t get presented to them in a “peer-reviewed study.” Don’t get me wrong - obviously, peer-reviewed studies are important, and when properly done, and without potential or direct conflicts of interest, they’re the cornerstone of scientific safety and development. Unfortunately, for those who are still desperate to believe that the Covid vaccines are a modern-day miracle that eased the pain of the pandemic, no “unsanctioned” information will be allowed passed their mental and emotional barrier.
A New Angle
When we debate with someone about the vaccine outcome, we should begin by asking 2 questions:
Do you believe there’s any chance that the “anti-vaxxers” could possibly be correct in their claim that the vaccines are not safe and effective? In other words, do adverse events from the vaccine exist in larger numbers than government health officials admit to?
If the response is an immediate no - there’s nothing to further discuss. You can’t debate with someone about a subject where they enter the debate with a 100% closed mind to the possibility that you have valid information to share with them. If they admit that there’s a chance that our claim is true, we should follow up with:
2. How would the outcome play out in real life if the vaccines are causing much more harm than we were told?
The answer is unfortunately unfolding pretty much exactly how a logical mind would expect. If the vaccines are indeed more harmful than we were told, non-Covid deaths and injuries would be elevated in a noticeable way, with a correlation to vaccination. It seems so simple and horrific at the same time, that it’s both easy and difficult to understand why so many people are still blind to it.
For those who wave off the debate as moot, because the vaccine issue is behind us - they’re lucky that their lives or the lives of a loved one didn’t get destroyed or cut short after taking the vaccine. I would love to be as optimistic as someone who thinks that we’ve reached the end of the road in terms of mandated vaccines and medical tyranny, but we have to prepare for the possibility that we’re still in the beginning stages of medical authoritarianism.
Meanwhile, after two years of being mocked, blocked, ridiculed, and gaslit, it seems to me that finally, the truth and the findings of the people who have been shoved into underground media are becoming too large to ignore.
Case #1- Fox News: While Fox News lies squarely in the camp of legacy media due to its age, size, and corporate sponsors, they’ve managed to keep a reputation of occasionally telling the truth. As anyone who follows underground media is aware, Tucker Carlson is by far the best personality on the network, with a reputation for saying it like it is and discussing topics others won’t touch. Despite sponsorships from Pfizer, AstraZeneca, J&J, and others, he’s touched on the Covid vaccines with more skepticism than most other TV hosts, but last week he finally went no holds barred:
Yesterday, a Fox News panel went from discussing Biden’s case of Covid to ripping on the 4 doses of the vaccine that didn’t protect him from getting Covid. (Timestamped)
Case #2- Ethical Public Health Officials Resign: The approval of the Covid vaccines for children and now babies triggered a chain of resignations, as disgusted health officials leave agencies that they now consider themselves embarrassed to have been a part of. This article by Dr. Marty Makary and Dr. Tracey Beth Hoeg is a must-read.
A Challenge
Recently, someone recommended that I reach out to a pro-vaccine doctor who has an online presence, in order to get the other side’s point of view. The following is the email I plan to send him, and I eagerly await his response:
Dear Dr. _____,
It was recommended to me that I reach out to you regarding the Covid vaccines, as we have radically opposing views on the topic, and I’d like to be informed as to your view, specifically in response to the issues in this letter.
My view, which is based on 2 years of reading, watching, and speaking with people from all over the world from all different professions is that the public health agencies were either deceptive or wrong in their claim that the vaccines are "safe and effective."
Since I started my Substack, I've been able to network with people on the ground, who are dealing with horrible fallout from the vaccine, both on micro and macro levels. On top of the medical and emotional fallout, they're dealing with gaslighting and censorship, which adds insult to injury.
I've read and written about the following topics, among others, that have formed my opinions:
VAERS Data: If the vaccines are safe and effective, would the VAERS reports have reached the unprecedented levels they're at now? As I'm sure you're aware, VAERS reports are long and complicated, take about 45 minutes to complete, and are mostly submitted by medical professionals. Because of those circumstances, it's both unlikely that a large percentage are fake, and it's very likely that they’re severely underreported due to the length of the process.
Fraudulent Data: I'm in direct contact with Brook Jackson. If you're unaware of her testimony, you can read more details in the British Medical Journal, but the short version is that she's been a clinical trial researcher for 20 years. In September 2020, she was hired by a company called Venatavia to manage 3 clinical trial sites in Texas that were running trials for the Pfizer Covid vaccine. What she witnessed in her first 18 days of work is nothing less than straight-up fraud. She's well aware of standard operating procedures, and the Pfizer trials violated dozens of them, to the point of irreversibly contaminating the data. On her 18th day of work, she carefully documented examples of fraud and code violations, and anonymously sent them to the FDA. She heard nothing back from them, and 6 hours later she was fired. Her lawsuit is currently making its way through the courts.
Pfizer Documents: As I’m sure you are aware, when a drug company submits its research to the FDA for approval, that information belongs to the public. After months of the FDA refusing to release the data, a judge granted a FOIA request for the information and demanded that the FDA release the documents. The FDA responded with a request to stagger the release for 75 years, to which the judge replied that it must be done within 8 months. Beginning March 2022, on the first of every month, there are tens of thousands of internal Pfizer documents released. I’m in direct contact with Dr. Naomi Wolf of the DailyClout who has put together a volunteer team of doctors, lawyers, scientists, data analysts, and others who are combing through the data in an organized and methodical fashion, led by their Program Director Amy Kelly. They’ve already found dozens of pieces of information that are critical and completely disprove the claim that the vaccines are “safe and effective”. Just to point out a few, although the full list can be found at DailyClout :
The claim that the materials from the vaccine stay at the injection site is false. Pfizer’s studies showed evidence of the mRNA and lipid nanoparticles in organs all over the body, with high concentrations in multiple organ tissues including the liver, spleen, and ovaries. They found the materials there up to 48 hours after injection and longer than that we have no data because they stopped monitoring.
The claim that the vaccines were safe for pregnant women and did not affect fertility lacked any evidentiary basis. Reproductive toxicity was improperly assessed in limited animal models and was not studied in human subjects at all. The primary reproductive toxicity study was conducted on humanized rats expressing the low-spike protein affinity ACE2 receptor instead of the high-affinity ACE2 receptors found in human lung & epithelial tissues and was cut short when they harvested the fetuses prematurely. Additionally, there were more abnormalities among the fetuses in the vaccinated rats vs the unvaccinated rats, dismissed by Pfizer as unrelated because the rate fell within historical control bounds, which as anyone versed in statistics knows does not preclude the possibility of attribution to an intervention.
The injuries and deaths that Pfizer knew about in the time period up until Feb 28, 2021, surpassed by a wide margin every prior stopping condition for post-market authorization of a novel biologics product and should have been far more than enough to pause the injections immediately. There were over 42,000 patient reports of adverse events, including over 1200 deaths. Furthermore, FDA standards dictated that patients be informed of any potential adverse events reported – not verified, but merely reported – in order to provide informed consent to vaccination.
Pfizer received a flood of injury reports so large that they had to hire an additional 1800 employees for the upcoming months to handle all of the previously unexpected injury reports. (Page 6)
DMED Data: I’m in direct contact with Lieutenant Colonel Dr. Peter Chambers who served as a flight surgeon for Special Ops in Africa, and then later as the Task Force Surgeon for a unit of soldiers on the Texas/Mexico border. He and 3 other high-level military specialists became whistleblowers as a result of their personal experience treating a number of conditions or injuries immediately following the vaccine rollout to the military that they had never seen in their decades-long careers as military physicians. The military maintains an epidemiological database of all military ICD codes, that has been inexplicably rewritten, and which the military refused in the context of a lawsuit over their vaccine mandate to provide a signed affidavit in court to explain, something wholly unprecedented. Dr. Chambers himself treated and/or consulted for the medical conditions of soldiers who were injured or died after vaccination, and he was ultimately forced into early retirement for providing his medical opinion to his soldiers about the vaccine prior to vaccination.
Pilot Risk: I’m in direct contact with airline pilots from the US, the UK, and Australia. They’ve formed a network with thousands of airline staff as a pushback against the vaccine mandates, as well as in an effort to expose the risk of vaccinated pilots and mitigate it. Their demands are thorough screenings of vaccinated pilots for undetected cardiac issues, which we now know is a risk of vaccination. I’m in direct contact with Captain Bob Snow who landed an American Airlines aircraft with just under 200 passengers on board and suffered a cardiac arrest that he attributes to the Covid vaccine 6 minutes later. The next time he woke up was a day later in the ICU. American Airlines is silent on the issue.
Excess Mortality Rates: Excess mortality in 2021 and 2022 has not substantially decreased from 2020, despite 2020 clearing out a significant chunk of those who were 'supposed' to die in the next few years. Instead, the pattern of excess mortality has shifted so that the younger and healthier now comprise a considerably larger share than they did prior to those demographic cohorts being vaccinated. This novel distribution of excess mortality is probably most visible in the stunning phenomenon of hundreds of athletes dropping dead suddenly, well over the prior documented record of 65 in a single year. Trends of rising all-cause mortality non-conforming to any historical precedent have been so pronounced that we now have the addition of 'SADS' to the medical lexicon as a result of these phenomena in countries with significant vaccine uptake. An unexpected significant rise in mortality that sharply deviates from the pattern seen in pandemic-era excess deaths following mass vaccination is something that must be thoroughly investigated. For example, I’m in direct contact with a family who owns a casket manufacturing business and supplies caskets to major retailers across the US. He and others in his industry noticed a definitive increase in orders throughout 2021, and more ominously, a 400% increase in child-size caskets starting in Dec 2021. He received his first ever bulk order of child-size caskets in the month after the child vaccine rollout began.
Personal Testimonies: As much as the medical and scientific fields are trained to communicate via peer-reviewed studies, the people who have been injured or had loved ones die after vaccination are mostly absent from such studies. As a group, they’ve been mocked, ignored, kicked off Facebook ( a support group with tens of thousands of vaccine-injured members has been arbitrarily shut down), and ghosted by public health agencies. If you’d like to inform yourself about the sheer number and severity of those cases, please spend some time on realnotrare.com It was started by Brianne Dressen who was injured in the AstraZeneca trials. Thousands of people have been brave enough to come forward and share their stories with the tiny corner of the internet that’s compassionate enough to listen to them.
Maddie De Garay: Maddie was 12 when she participated in the Pfizer clinical trials. Within 24 hours of her second dose, her entire body went haywire and she began to suffer from multiple severe neurological deficits Until today, she’s in a wheelchair with a feeding tube. In Pfizer’s documents, they classified her adverse event as “abdominal pain”. Obviously, if a vaccine trial that lies about the existence of a severe injury in a trial participant, that disqualifies all safety data derived from that trial
Geert Vanden Bosch: Dr. Geert Vanden Bosch is an independant virologist and vaccine specialist. He’s been shouting till he’s blue in the face since the beginning of Covid that you NEVER mass-vaccinate into a pandemic, especially the children when their risk level approaches zero. His theory is that mass vaccination will cause the virus to mutate around the vaccine, and the immune systems of those vaccinated are looking for the original variant, allowing the new ones to infect them.
Pharma/Govt Co-dependence: I have no issues with companies getting paid for a product. However, when the only people who are allowed a voice in the public debate about the product are those who are intimately tied to the outcome of the public response to the product it doesn’t lend credibility. The revolving door between the government health agencies and the pharmaceutical companies is an open secret, while the unbiased are denied a seat at the table over and over.
I could go on, and maybe I will. However, I’d like to ask you a question: If there’s ANY chance that my claim, backed by tens of thousands of professionals, and which is supported by millions of citizens, that the Covid vaccines are neither safe nor effective is true, what would that look like? Would we not be seeing the exact signals listed above? If indeed, mass vaccinating an entire population into a pandemic was a colossal mistake, then the mandates were nothing short of criminal. The sheer anger that’s building from a population that’s been deceived and harmed is going to be directed at those who mandated and encouraged vaccination, which explains why those who did just that are fighting so hard against this information being introduced into the public sphere. However, as Dr. Robert Malone, a victim of the establishment’s malicious and wicked smear campaign recently quoted - “The truth is like a lion. You don’t have to defend it - let it loose and it will defend itself.”
If you’re interested in a debate with one of the “real” professionals (as opposed to me who simply reports on what they research), I would absolutely love to arrange and possibly host such a thing. Unfortunately, it’s near impossible to get professionals who are pro-vaccine to show up to a debate with those who think it should be immediately stopped. If you’re up for such a thing, it would be warmly received.
Sincerely,
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Not a chance any pro-vaxxer shows up to debate. Steve Kirsch has been trying for months. They know they’ll be torn to shreds.
Well-thought out challenge. However, The silent reply you’ll receive from all pro-vax doctors or scientists you send it to will be deafening. We’re dealing with a new collective mass formation faith now, not science. Evidence no longer matters and no amount of it will change minds. You could livestream on CNN a stadium full of 60,000 people all falling over dead in seconds with the covid vax needles still in their arms and you’d get ZERO people to renounce their faith.